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#7 Duke Defeats Virginia Tech

At 12-9 when it hosted #7 Duke last night, the Virginia Tech Hokies had a chance to get a crucial victory.  Instead, the Blue Devils rolled to a 75-60 victory, dropping Virginia Tech to 12-10.

Although the game was tied at 21, Duke led handily for most of the game.  In fact, Duke led at the half 38-28, and that score required a three-pointer by Erick Green at the buzzer to make it that close.  Duke went on a 24-12 run to open the second-half and make the game a no-doubter.

Erick Green led Virginia Tech with 17 points and 7 rebounds.  Victory Davila added 16 points and 7 rebounds.  With the loss, Virginia Tech is now 1-6 in conference play.  Only Georgia Tech at 1-7 has a worse record in conference play.  Virginia Tech hosts Clemson on Saturday.

Duke was led by Austin Rivers with 18 points. But three other players scored in double-figures: Ryan Kelly (15), Seth Curry (11), and Mason Plumlee (10).  Plumlee added 6 rebounds.  Duke hosts Miami on Sunday,

With the win, Duke moves to 6-1 in conference play and 19-3 overall.  This puts Duke in a three-way tie with North Carolina and Florida State at 6-1.  North Carolina is 19-3 overall, while Florida State is 15-6.  However, the Seminoles have beaten both Duke and North Carolina on the season.  Duke will travel to North Carolina on Wednesday evening for the first game of the season between the two rivals.

This Day in ACC History: 27 Years Ago (Maryland & Georgia Tech)

In celebration of Grounghog’s Day, the Confidential is going to roll out another edition This Day in ACC History.  Today, the time machine goes back to a game between the Maryland Terrapins and Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets on February 2, 1985, 27 years ago.

On February 2, 1985, Georgia Tech traveled to Maryland for a regular season game.  1984-1985 was a good year for both teams.  Georgia Tech would go 9-5 in conference play, and ultimately lose in the Elite Eight to Georgetown.  Maryland would go 8-6 in conference play, and lose in the Sweet 16 to Villanova.  As you may recall, Villanova would shock the world with its defeat of Georgetown in the National Championship Game.

In the game in question, Georgia Tech got the huge road win over Maryland, 72-60.  Maryland’s two leading scorers all season were Senior Adrian Branch and Junior Len Bias.  Branch averaged 18.1 PPG, while Bias averaged 18.9.  There were two of the top three scorers in the ACC that year.  And it was no different in the losing cause against Georgia Tech, with Branch scoring 20 points and Bias adding 14.  Anther key player for Lefty Driesell’s team that night was Sophomore Keith Gatlin, who scored 10 points and added 4 assists

Georgia Tech, coached by Bobby Cremins, was led by two familiar names–Juniors Mark Price and John Salley.  Against Maryland, the Senior Yvon Joseph did most of the damage, scoring 20 points.  Salley added 14 points.  Price had an impressive all-around game with 16 points, 7 rebounds, and 4 assists.  But Sophomore Bruce Dalrymple nearly matched Price with his 14 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists.

Do you remember this game?  Please feel free to share any details in the Comments section below.


Several of these players would go on to have professional success:

And, of course, Len Bias died tragically only two days after being drafted #2 overall by the Boston Celtics in the 1986 draft.

The famous John Salley, courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:John_Salley_LF.JPG

This Day in History is a feature that relies heavily on information obtained from Atlantic Coast Conference Men’s Basketball Games, Michael O’ Hara, McFarland & Company, Inc. (2008).  Special thanks to that fine publication.

Signing Day Update

According to MaxPreps, the ACC had five teams pull in top-25 recruiting classes.  Most of the school names on the list are the ones that you would expect–Alabama, Texas, Ohio State, and Michigan.  And it is no different with the ACC teams that made the list–especially the top 4 of Florida State, Miami, Clemson, and Virginia Tech.  Impressively, Virginia cracked the list as well.

Florida State edged out Miami to have the 6th best overall class and the best class in the ACC.  Both schools were probably disappointed to see Florida take the 5 spot ahead of both of them.  For Florida State, it is yet another great class to build on its young foundation and bright future.  But, at #7, Miami showed that the off-field issues are not going to stop the talent from flowing in.

At #11, Clemson took advantage of its nice season.  Again, however, the Tigers finished behind in-state rival South Carolina in these rankings. Even the disappointing (and then some) Orange Bowl performance did not prevent the class from being outstanding.

Virginia Tech landed in at #16, which is pretty much what the Hokies are expected to do most years.  Perhaps more surprising is that in-state rival, Virginia, cracked the top 25.  After a great rebound season under new coach Mike London, the Cavaliers look to challenge Virginia Tech each season.

Obviously, these rankings do not mean much in the big picture.  Texas, Ohio State, and Notre Dame have all had issues in recent years converting top 5 recruiting classes into top 5 seasons.  But it’s all fans have to go by right now.

So congratulations to these five schools and their new recruits.  And congrats to all the future ACC players that signed letters of intent today.

 

 

 

North Carolina and Virginia Keep Winning

North Carolina and Virginia each did their part in maintaining their placement in the polls last night, as both were able to win.  The #16 Cavaliers defended their home court in a 65-61 victory of Clemson.  The #5 Tar Heels handled Wake Forest on the road, 68-53.

The ugly game of the night across the nation was Illinois’ victory over Michigan State by a score of 42-41.  That is a score reminiscent of the 1940’s.  As usual, however, the abysmal shooting in that game will be rationalized as a product of “good defense.”

Well, their must have been some good defense in the North Carolina-Wake Forest game too, as the two teams shot 31.0% and 29.6% from the field.  Nevertheless, both teams were able to avoid scores in the low 40’s, in part because both teams were competent at the free throw line.  The rebounding numbers were pretty impressive too–with North Carolina edging Wake 50-36.  That’s a lot of boards.  In fact, Tyler Zeller had 18 of them, while Josh Henson added 12.  Terrell McKie led the Demon Deacons with 13 rebounds.  From a scoring standpoint, the Tar Heels only had 6 players score, but 4 of them were in double-figures, led by Zeller’s 18.  CJ Harris led Wake Forest with 19 points.  With the loss, Wake Forest drops to 11-11.  North Carolina improves to 19-3.

Up in Charlottesville, the Cavaliers narrowly defeated Clemson in a typically slow tempo game.  In comparison to the rebound-fest described above, Virginia and Clemson combined for only 48 rebounds–with Virginia having an impressive 31-17 edge in that regard.  But the game was a nail biter for Virginia as Clemson maintained a lead into the early part of the second-half before Virginia pulled away.  The Tigers made it close down the stretch, forcing Virginia to win it at the free throw line.  Devin Booker led the Tigers, who dropped to 11-10, with 14 points.  As usual, Mike Scott led Virginia with 18 points and 10 rebounds.  Virginia improves to 18-3 and maintains its 4th place position in the conference standings.

Clemson Forms Athletic Advisory Committee

As previously noted here, there have been some Internet rumors regarding the Big XII making a play for ACC schools.  The SEC is also a possibility to expand down the road.  As the conference finances spiral out of control, one just does not know what each conference and university is truly thinking.  Now, Clemson has announced the formation of an Athletic Advisory Committee.  Inherent in the formation of such a committee is the potential to analyze conference loyalty.

The key excerpts of the press release are as follows:

“The nature of college athletics is changing in every area,” said Phillips who has been Clemson’s Athletic Director for nearly 10 years. “These changes are effecting how Clemson Athletics does business. It is a blessing to have access to successful business leaders who have and are facing similar issues in their industries.

“I have asked these Clemson loyalists to advise us as we strive to take our program to the next level. The candid and productive conversations we had and will have focus on key issues and strategies that will make Clemson athletics as good as it can be.”

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“Clemson is one of the top athletic programs in the nation,” said Frampton. “We have only one agenda – how to help Clemson Athletics go to the next level.

“Every area of major college sports is being challenged – competition, academic success, student/athlete welfare, compliance, finances, brand marketing and conference structure. Clemson needs to lead change, not react to it.”

In addition, www.leatherhelmetblog.com is contributing to the mix.  They have an analysis of how the ACC could lose four schools–Virginia Tech, North Carolina State, Clemson, and Florida State.  But a blog is a blog is a blog.

The Clemson announcement is the first hint that maybe there is some fire to the blog smoke.

Does anyone have any other sources to suggest that the ACC is not as strongly tied together as some think?

 

 

Everyone in the ACC is Moving Up in the Polls!

The ESPN/USA Today top 25 has been released and the ACC schools all moved up.

#2 Syracuse improved from #4, leapfrogging Ohio State and taking the place of Missouri.  The Orange defeated Cincinnati and West Virginia last week.

#5 Duke improved from #6.  The Blue Devils defeated both Maryland and St. Johns last week.

#6 North Carolina improved from #8.  The Tar Heels defeated North Carolina State and Georgia Tech.

#18 Virginia improved from #21.  The Cavaliers defeated Boston College and Notre Dame last week.

And Florida State launched itself into the polls at #24, after defeating Wake Forest on the road last week.  Of course, Florida State has made the most news by defeating North Carolina by 33 and upsetting Duke on the road.  Although the Confidential has North Carolina State ranked higher, Florida State does have the better wins.

So, nothing but upward mobility for the ACC teams.  Hopefully, it will continue next week…

ACC Basketball Rankings: January 30, 2012

This is particularly complex with Pitt and Syracuse not yet in the ACC, but it can still be done.  Here is how we view the ACC basketball schools as of January 30, 2012:

1Syracuse (22-1)  While weaker minds will blame the Syracuse win on the referees, West Virginia had every opportunity to win the game–including the ball in the half court with 6+ seconds to go.  That they chose to shoot an off-balance three pointer instead of trying to use their advantage down low is not the referees’ fault.  Just sayin’.

2. Duke (18-3Duke keeps the #2 spot.  After losing to the Seminoles, Duke went on the road and beat a very good Maryland team.  And then a tough out-of-conference foe in St. Johns gave them a tough test at home.  Narrowly above North Carolina.  Will these two teams EVER play?

3. North Carolina (18-3)  Look out for the Tar Heels.  After the embarrassing blowout loss, North Carolina is on a roll.  North Carolina State did not provide much of a test though.  Upcoming two game road trip to Maryland and Wake Forest.

4. Virginia (17-3)  Rebounded nicely from the Virginia Tech stunner to defeat Boston College at home.  Even more impressive was the win at North Carolina State.

5. Florida State (14-6)  Another road win–this time over Wake Forest by a comfortable margin of 23.  If the Seminoles can get by Georgia Tech on Wednesday, the focus will shift to the visiting Cavaliers on Saturday.

6. North Carolina State (15-7)  Tough week for the Wolfpack, as they had to travel to Chapel Hill and then host Virginia.  Despite the two losses, still 4-3 in conference play.

7.  Maryland (13-7)  Maryland kept its record at .500 in conference by edging Virginia Tech on Saturday.  Nice bounce-back after losing to Duke.  Up next?  A trip to Miami.

8Miami (12-7)  The Hurricanes are up to 3-3 in conference play with wins over Georgia Tech and Boston College.  Both were significant margin victories on the road.  Return on home Wednesday to host Maryland.

9. Clemson (11-9)  3-3 in conference after beating Wake Forest on Saturday.  Next up is a trip to Virginia to play both schools in road games.  Doesn’t get any easier.

10. Pittsburgh (13-9)  The Panthers are starting to warm-up a bit.  On Saturday, they got their second win in a row with a victory over #9 Georgetown.

11. Wake Forest (11-10)  Tough call between Wake Forest and Virginia Tech.  The Demon Deacons have the extra conference win to provide the edge.

12. Virginia Tech (12-9)  The Hokies looked good in 2011, but 2012 has been very unkind.  They are now a dismal 1-5 in conference play.  Next up?  Duke.  Gulp.

13. Georgia Tech (8-13)  Georgia Tech cannot buy a win right now.  After traveling to red-hot Florida State midweek, Boston College comes to town.  That’s a must win for the coaching staff.

14. Boston College (7-14)  Doesn’t get any easier for the Eagles.  They host North Carolina State on Wednesday–a Wolfpack team that has lost to North Carolina and Virginia in its recent games, and really really needs a win.

Agree?  Disagree?  Let us know!

ACC Basketball Recap: January 28, 2012

Here is the recap for the ACC basketball action on January 28, 2012.  It was a big day for impressive individual performances, as a few players got into the high teens in rebounds.

The big win of the day goes to… Pittsburgh, who defeated #9 Georgetown by a score of 72-60.  Bear in mind that the Panthers had lost eight straight before winning their last game.  To get that second conference win, and to do it over a very good Georgetown team, is going to rejuvenate this team.  Nasir Robinson went 9 for 9 from the field en route to a 23 point-game to lead Pitt.  Robinson added 8 rebounds too.   Lamar Patterson was another star for Pitt, with 18 points, seven assists and four rebounds.  At this juncture, every win is a big one for Pittsburgh.  But Saturday’s win was huge.  For Georgetown, this would ordinarily be chalked up as a “good” road loss.  With the Panthers’ struggles this year, that may not be the case.  Still, Georgetown is 16-4 and looking at a top seed in the Big Dance.  Otto Porter led the Hoyas with 14 points.

As a close second, how about #19 Virginia landing a road win over the streaking North Carolina State Wolfpack?  The Cavaliers won 61-60,  as Lorenzo Brown missed a desperation 3-pointer at the end of the game that would have won it for NC State.  Not surprisingly, Mike Scott led Virginia with 18 points and 5 rebounds.  However, despite winning, the Cavaliers were outrebounded 40-20.  In  fact, North Carolina State’s Richard Howell almost single-handedly outrebounded Virginia by grabbing 18 boards.  With the loss, the Wolfpack dropped to 15-7 on the season.  Virginia improved to 17-3.

#3 Syracuse also overcame a poor rebounding effort, narrowly defeating visiting West Virginia, 63-61.  The Mountaineers dominated Syracuse–who was again playing without Center Fab Melo–on the glass, 36-20.  But this game was notable for its poor officiating, as the referees failed to call a rather obvious goaltending against Syracuse with less than 10 seconds to go.  However, before feeling too sorry for West Virginia, they retained possession and missed a three-point shot at the buzzer.  Had the basket counted, Syracuse would have had 9 seconds to get off a shot.  Kevin Jones led West Virginia with 20 points and 8 rebounds, but missed the three-pointer as time expired.  Brandon Triche led Syracuse with 18 points.

Visiting St. Johns rallied in the second half, but ultimately lost to #8 Duke in Durham, 83-76.  Duke had a 16-point lead at the half, which grew to 22 points during the second half.  However, the Red Storm were able to narrow the margin to only four points with 21 seconds remaining.  They would never get any closer.  St. Johns looks like it has a budding star in Moe Harkness, who scored 30 points and grabbed 13 rebounds.  The big star for Duke was Mason Plumlee, who scored 15 points and grabbed an impressive 17 rebounds.  With the win, Duke improved to 18-3 on the season and looks poised to rise a few places in the rankings this week.

Maryland got back to its winning ways with a 73-69 victory over Virginia Tech.  Credit the Hokies for making a game of it, as they trailed by 13 at the half and by as many as 16 in the second-half.  But they just dug too big a hole to get out of.  Erick Green led the Hokies with 18 points.  At 12-9, Virginia Tech is running out of time to get back on the right side of the bubble.  Terrell Stoglin was the hero for Maryland, leading the Terps with 28 points.  Maryland is now 13-7 and controls its own post-season destiny.

Finally, Clemson handed Wake Forest its 10th loss of the season, defending its home court in a 71-60 victory.  CJ Harris led Wake Forest with 19 points, while Andre Young led the four Clemson players that scored in double-figures with 19 points of his own.  With the win, Clemson improves to 11-9.

 

 

 

 

Weekend Preview: January 28-29

As is often the case this time of year, there are a number of ACC games this weekend in college basketball.

Saturday

In a rather late out-of-conference game, #8 Duke hosts St. John’s at noon. This is not the St. John’s team from last year that made the Big Dance.  At 9-11, the only March dancing the Red Storm will be doing is if they get a WII and Dance Dance Revolution.  But let’s hope Coach Lavin’s recovery continues unabated.  He did a great job with that team last year.

In another noon game, Wake Forest travels to Clemson in the “Battle to Avoid 10th Loss” Bowl.   Wake Forest is 11-9, while Clemson is 10-9.

#3 Syracuse takes the Carrier Dome floor at 1pm to play West Virginia.  The Orange will likely have to play against without Center Fab Melo.  So far, they are 1-1 without the super-Sophomore.  West Virginia usually shoots well in the Dome.

At 2:30 pm,  Maryland hosts Virginia Tech.  The 12-8 Hokies are desperate for a win just to get back on the bubble.  Meanwhile, at 12-7, Maryland has to be careful.  After a nice December stretch, January has been less successful with a 2-3 conference record.  Both teams desperately need a win.

Pittsburgh looks to make it two straight wins when it hosts #9 Georgetown at 4pm.  Despite losing 8 straight games, the Panthers are still sitting at 12-9 overall.

At 8:00 pm, North Carolina State hosts #19 Virginia.  At 16-3, the Wahoos are looking to get a quality conference road win.  North Carolina State, however, needs to rebound from its ugly loss to the Tar Heels.  And the Wolfpack need to defend home court.

 

Sunday

At 1pm, Boston College hosts Miami.  At 11-7, the Hurricanes need to start stringing some wins together.  A road win over 7-13 Boston College is a necessity.

The 6pm game on Sunday features Georgia Tech visiting #7 North Carolina.  The Tar Heels are looking to make it two comfortable home wins in a row.  In fact, they have yet to lose at home all year.  And, while the Florida State loss still lingers, North Carolina has won 11 of their last 12 games.

The Latest on Conference Realignment, Part II: Any Realistic Expansion Scenarios?

In Part I of the discussion, the Confidential noted some of the crazier rumors on the blogosphere regarding expansion.  In Part II, the Confidential takes a look at what the more likely expansion scenarios are.

The Notre Dame Issue: Forcing the Big 10 and ACC to Maintain the Status Quo

First and foremost, the most significant expansion catalyst will be Notre Dame.  It seems very unlikely that the Big 10 and ACC would expand without Notre Dame being part of the mix.  As noted in Part I, Notre Dame is even on the wish list for the Big XII.  In the meantime, Notre Dame has virtually no interest in having its football team part of a conference.  So, while Notre Dame takes its time, the Big 10 and ACC are likely to remain with the status quo.

That being said, both conferences likely have a scenario mapped out for the possibility of Notre Dame being a willing partner.  For the Big 10, adding Rutgers with Notre Dame seems liked a good fit.  In Rutgers, Penn State would get its Eastern partner and the conference would add a state flagship school with academics.  While Rutgers’ ability to deliver the New York City market is overstated, would bring the New Jersey market.  While arguments for UConn could be made, the Confidential’s money would be on Rutgers.

The ACC similarly would take either Rutgers or UConn as part of a Notre Dame package.  Whether Boston College would block UConn is unclear.  For a conference that prides itself on good basketball, adding UConn makes a lot more sense than Rutgers.  The UConn football history is a century shorter than the Rutgers’ football history, but already has one more BCS bowl appearance.  All in all, UConn seems the better fit for the ACC with Notre Dame.

Either way, with Notre Dame’s situation not likely to change any time soon, the Big 10 and ACC will not be expanding soon.

The Pac-12

With 12 teams and few western options, the Pac-12 seems fairly certain to have stopped expanding.  Moreover, the scheduling agreement with the Big 10 will give the Pac-12 additional exposure.  Nevertheless, if Texas and Oklahoma were to approach the Pac-12 with open arms and a willingness to accept the Pac-12’s desired revenue sharing concepts, it is possible that the Pac-12 could reopen discussions on a move to 16 teams.  But barring a surprise–such as Oklahoma and Oklahoma State heading to the SEC–it seems unlikely that Texas will want to give up the Longhorn Network and the Big XII for some time.  Therefore, the Pac-12 seems to be done expanding for the time being.

The Big XII

The Big XII stands pat is less clear. With two additions, the Big XII would return to 12 teams and be able to hold a conference championship game.  With twelve teams, there would be some margin for loss if Texas decides to take its talents independent or some other defection occurs.

The commentariat at Frank the Tank seems to think that Louisville and BYU make the most sense as additions to the Big XII.  The Confidential agrees.  Louisville provides an eastern partner for West Virginia, while BYU makes some geographic sense and adds a market for the Big XII.   But if BYU remains adamant that it will not join a conference, then Cincinnati seems like a better fit than Rutgers to be the 12th team.  Cincinnati and Louisville would give the Big XII two teams in the gap between West Virginia and the other schools.   Of course, the Big XII could choose not to expand without getting Louisville and BYU.  In that situation, the Big XII would just be waiting for BYU to come around to the Big XII idea.  And with Utah, TCU, San Diego State, and Boise State all opting for conference affiliation, BYU could very well conclude soon that independence is too risky.  So, all things considered, Louisville and BYU as additions right before the television contract renewal makes the most sense.

The SEC

The SEC is a big question mark at 14 teams.  There will always be discussions about moving to 16.  Most people’s favorite speculation game is that Virginia Tech and North Carolina State would be perfect fits for the SEC.  Neither school is about to supplant Duke and North Carolina in the power department.  Both fit into a football-focused dynamic.  The SEC would land two new markets.  As noted in Part I, there are blogs already thinking about division and pod breakdowns.  But there are political issues with such a move.  Then there are Florida State, Georgia Tech, and Clemson.  Each of those schools would make football sense.  At the same time, neither school provides the SEC with a new market.  So, while the football quality may increase, it is not clear that the $$$ would follow.  And it’s not like the SEC is lacking in quality football schools.  If anything, it would just increase the gauntlet for an SEC school to go undefeated.  And which two of the three would be invited?  All in all, the ACC schools may have their differences, but they still seem unified as an academic-athletic conference.

If the SEC were to suspend its football-first thinking, then a Kansas-Kansas State addition would allow the SEC to become more legitimate in basketball.  Right now, the SEC is Kentucky, Florida, and not much else.  Missouri will help.  But Kansas would add one of the truly elite programs.  If Kansas-Kansas State tried to start discussions, Oklahoma-Oklahoma State could figure it out and step in to steal the opportunity (see Missouri, Nebraska, and the Big 10).  No other Big XII school seems likely to pursue an invitation.  And no Big East school is worthy of addition.

So, in the end, it seems unlikely that the SEC will make moves in the short-term.  If two ACC or Big XII schools came calling, perhaps the SEC would be interested.  The question is–who would inquire?   So, again, the status quo seems likely for several years.

Conclusion

The ACC, Big 10, Pac-12, and SEC are likely to remain the same for the near future.  If the Big XII expands, Louisville and BYU make the most sense as the two additions.   Such a move makes complete sense for all parties and is the only realistic expansion scenario in the near future.

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